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Hi again.About wildcat, lets say you are using dark nostalgia for 25% demon general boost. When you enter wildcat, that boost remains? do you get the full demon boosts of your gears?
Boost to your own devils still applies in WC. Party boost like those from Outlaw and such don’t, since technically your PC isn’t in the party.
hihi~ have 1 question to finella sama~
is the demon damage boost capped at certain %?
According to description of wat we have now, its possible to go as high as 155% demon damage boost(or even more with the non trade servant kiki).
Are the demon damage boost work like take original damage with 0% damage boost times with the damage % boost rite? :X
Damage boosts, be it to PC or humans work the same way. The only cap is to affinity at 100%.
ty for the reply^^ and just wondering are the demon skill modifier are uknown? because i cant find it anywhr including jwiki i think >_> if my limited jpn lang didnt fail me T^T
http://finella.nemissa.info/smt-imagine-data-dump/skills/
wts: common sense/logic
>_> i did search over that section but i overlook the clickable Skill button page since i saw only chain expert skill and expert skill once i expand the skill section. Didnt know the demon skill modifier are right inside the skill page. Sorry for asking the stupid question >_<
Does the JP server got that weird PvP patch that broke mirrors/items? Or we got some exclusive content?
Regarding the BP heal spam, weren’t fixed CD before? I don’t remember it being spammable before…
Btw check this http://forums.aeriagames.com/viewtopic.php?t=950305 and see how retarded our community is atm.
They are both Aeria only screw-ups. Both are result of things being flagged in a retarded manner.
…and as a side effect, they may cause mass lulz&fail upon channel Uni/Diaspora Patch.
while probably they are thinking “OMG we found a way to implement cards, all staff will get a raise yaaay”. From what I checked using LinkedIn the current GM staff doesn’t even know any basic programming language(well if html actually counts as programming), which makes me wonder who’s the smart guy that’s doing these kind of changes.
To be fair, Cave made the change, not Aeria.
Though the lack of testing on Aeria is still unacceptable, when they have previously claim to extensively test things out their test server before pushing stuff live.
Also one more question. The GM announced before that all new content (after act3 of CoC and maybe Wildcat and other crap we are not seeing soon) were linked to changes caused by channel unification (in other words, “without channel unification we won’t be able to receive any updates cuz the system and …insert random crap from aeria..”). Is this technically true?
Partially true.
Acts/quest/new crystals/etc… will neither require or be affected by unification, but zones will, due to the area/channel change.
Bonus channel unification information:
Ichigaya/Suginami/Cell used to have the instance and the lobby on the same area, when channel unification was first implemented.
The instance and lobby were split up later due to memory leaks, causing the areas to crash over time.
The fix employed by Cave were to split them up.
Hmm…Assuming the same happens on our server, I’ve got a strange feeling that Aeria will push CAVE to re-code their areas assuming it breaks Incs for us like I anticipate.
Enjoying the new countdown timers on the site. *thumbs up*
The countdown/locks are nothing more than a
bunch of social experimentsboring trolling attempts.Time is ticking. Will actual act 18/TGS 2010/Quartz/Diaspora/CoC/etc… information be found and discussed by certain players/GSes before details are revealed here?
I seriously doubt it, honestly.
I second that since it is a very typical behaviour in our community to a) leech all the information out from here (and sometimes claim “i was the firssst” lol) 2) sit and wait for somebody else to go after the information instead doing it by themselves .___.
(and I fail, the hints for the posts are quite clear but I couldn’t figure out the answers for the entries OTL lol)
BTW, I got a question… The LNC gloves/cape are listed as a non-AP/CP item, were they released in JP server in any other way (event prize/random giveaway/etcetra) besides that official netcafe option they got? :<
I don’t know about you guys, but I find it pretty amusing for example to see a certain GS, who can’t tell the difference between わ and は, claiming to have watch the TCS2010 stream and missed out on at least three important details that I’ve intentionally hide from my TCS2010 post.
It’s also pretty cool for someone who watch something live to only talk about it 2 days later.
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Anyway, the cloak/glove/ring were historically only given out during the Internet Cafe promotions here. Events here are exceedingly limited.
Oh tyvm! :D (that means unfortunately we will have to wait for raffles, promos and absurd prices in item mall to get them here qq…)
About said GS, idk it’s really not anything personal but I guess after slipping so many contradictions people simply don’t trust his/her words at all, regardless these being true facts or not lol
Dear Fifi-tan, I was just wonder how exactly the XP gained from Lucky Dance Ring is calculated? and it also says that “effects that raise XP are not in effect while wielding this item” so im assuming this means inc doesnt stack with it? is this correct?
http://finella.nemissa.info/2009/08/28/imagines-server-shutting-down-soon/
It grants a flat amount of XP, which means incenses, XP boosting equipment, world XP bonus etc… don’t increase the amount of XP given. i.e. similar to XP bonuses given after acts.
Regal Presence has me stumped. I reached class 6, but the chain expertise still raises. Think It’s better to raise Regal Presence as high as I can rather than move onto something like Rush?
Ranks in regal contributes to attack’s expert skill modifier.
Decide on your own if it’s worth it.
Thank youuuu
The Megidolaon page shows weapon and armor are 0. does it have a special calculation or something like how dcm always uses 10 dur or is it an error?
Special calculation, currently unknown.
Hi, how is demon cooldown calculated in regards to features and the passive skills from WC.
As of now, every devil-related cooldown, be it passive, set bonuses, etc… are all general cooldown and stacks additively for devils.
Any truth in this?
A forum guy says:
“will the items listed as non trade (like nocturne items, azure tear earing etc etc) finally be trade-able in this update?
a lot of non trade items were made trade-able in the JP version…dont know if that’s part of the CoC 2 update but it would be nice…been a long time in waiting.”
Based on leaked client, no.
Azure tear and such were made tradeable around Shiva/Vishnu. Nocturne was made tradable significantly later.
Leak client shows the cut off point for Aeria’s next update to be a week before Shiva/Vishnu.
Hi Fifi, I just saw the new chain expertise on jp wiki. “煉丹surgery” was the best that google translator could do for me…Do you have any info about it?
That which does not exist yet, cannot be explained.
Hello there, it’s stupid question time:
What is the chance of getting the Piece of Shadows and the other wood pieces? We know it’s a low chance, but is there an estimated value of what it might be, percentage or fraction wise?
My team fought Ongyou-ki for the 2nd time, and no luck on that piece, even with the +50 luck my sub character was providing…
I haven’t been able to access the server-side loot drops statistics since circa June/July, so I don’t have the exact statistics. I got my piece after 17 Ongyouki though, and a friend got it after 9.
Hey fifi, just wondering why the Item data dump was removed D:
Removed per Cave’s request.
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Hello. On Aeria server the bonus from cerberus + orthrus stones grants a 50% fire boost that is however classified as MOVEMENT instead of affinity. Is this one of Aeria’s exclusive screw ups or is it like this on JP server too?
It’s screwed up on Jserver too…well screwed up would be less of a term. It’s more that CAVE used it to get around affinity cap restrictions.
Lol, well ty.
I have a question about trifuse.
Just to be sure but will inexperienced Loki work with trifuse to attempt to make Thor or do I need the normal Loki?
Any variants usable in a fusion will do.
I heard a RUMOR that there is a way to get valuable cards from the shibuya underpass dungeon. Is that true? If so, how to do the run correctly?
Thanks for any response :)
That is correct, but it can be slightly complicated.
You can get a card or two in the dungeon depending how much damage you take from the miasma. If you are taking 18 HP per tick, then you can get a card. Anything below that amount will -not- work (So there’s little point in running the dungeon if you are taking 3/8/13 HP damage from the fog.)
Now, as to where the card is: It’s at the 2nd floor; you have to go down to the hall on the right side (look at the map) after you defeat the large mob of enemies in the last room. If you are taking 18 HP per tick as I said above, there will be a Mutated Baphomet in the small mob of enemies; that means you will get the card. You can convo him or kill him for rubies. Kill all enemies for 5 boxes and a corpse that will give you a valuable card. The boxes have a rare chance of giving a valuable card as well.
The miasma/fog weakens overtime though as people run the dungeon, so I don’t know when it ‘resets’ back to 18 HP per tick.
The version you get is completely random. The weaken/strengthen with more/less people doing the dungeon over time is another lie that Cave pulled. IOWs, never programed in.
Oh? Do tell. Better experiment then.
To keep it short, the only thing that’s actually working as intended is spawns/trigger during moon phases/specific timing.
i.e. X mob killed during Y time will trigger Z mob.
Pretty much everything else is based off a random chance per x hours.
As for Shibuchika, when CoC2 series first came out, the miasama/boss shift was tested to take place around every 3 hours.
Thanks for the info :)
Does the quest cut scene after you kill Take ever stop? It’s annoying to have the little guy begging for mags every time D:
Aeria-only issue with event triggers.
Overall, for a demon without technician focusing on all offensive spells, is peorth or sowilo better considering int/vit/speed bonuses to incant/cd? Assuming rank 6 in each? Demon in question is nyarlathotep.
Can’t be answered without breaking the ToS. Ask Aeria to release proper growth charts and base devil stats.
Hint: The joker who copied part of the growth tables off here blotched up the c/p job.
y need cooldown.. megi3->unsummon->summon is the way of life
Great idea. Especially with mag getting rarer, and 95% cooldown for devils being possible in the very near future on Aeria.
On the Japanese servers, what is the highest demon cd possible from player equipment presently?
Between ninety-four and ninety-six?
My apologies, what I was trying to determine was whether the 95 cd was completely from player equipment, or a combination of gear + demon vit/spd, technician, etc.
Gear alone is more than possible. Only need 2 piece of armor if it’s a devil with technician.
Just wondering Fifi, is there any actual reason as to why Shining Santa Frost cards are untradeable and unstorable? Was it part of some event/quest which didn’t make it over here or another LOLCAVE moment?
Probably left over artifacts from one of the Christmas quest in the past.
Which is particularly curious since its still receivable as a DFQ reward.
It’s Cave. They probably just flag something wrongly as usual.
For our upcoming wildcat implementation the SP gained are associated with the demon used or can be used for any demon you have?
Also do you have a good suggestion for chaos ice caster demon usable for PvP? I checked our failwiki and so far I didn’t find anything really worth the time.
thx in advance
Same as xp. It’s for the devil only.
Skill bought though can be fused off to other devils.
Full list of chaos devils with ice boost:
Azumi
Forneus
Ganga
Typhoon
Quetzalcoatl
Suiki
Seiryuu/Qing Long
Arahabaki
All of them have crappy resistance. There’s always the obvious choices of Loki/Skadi if you are willing to forgo ice boost, or something weird like Yomotsu-Shikome/Zouchouten.
hm lol as I thought. Anyway forgetting PvP, which one of these have a good natural growth oriented for spell caster?
thanks again
Ranked from highest to lowest based on level 0 + max friendship:
1) Seiryuu / King Frost (Miss him from the previous list)
2) Quetzalcoatl / Ganga
3) Suiki
4) Arahabaki
5) Forneus
6) Azumi
7) Typhon
Damn that Theenut. Sitting on all these information and not releasing them. May she get sores!
Please email me Finella? I have a question on your modding page, sorry to bother and be so obscure :(
I’m not going to help if it’s something that can’t be publicly discussed.
I was going to ask for the html for your modding page to put on my computer for personal use because I can’t tell half the item names in Aeria’s game from the JP wiki modification page through Google translate.
I’ve heard 3 different stories now about why you took the pages down in the first place~ I’m not sure you’d be allowed to share the info I’m asking for if the one about Cave banning your accounts if you didn’t take the pages down is true, even if you’d want to help me in the first place. (I’m not sure how much sense that makes anyways, but thought I’d be sensitive and ask for an email)
Thanks for your attention; your site was a staple for me (and for many other players) for Imagine: Online for a long long time and all your work is sorely missed.
http://finella.nemissa.info/2010/12/14/thanks-for-all-the-fish/
What’s gone is gone.
Alternative? Since Aeria claims to have a ton load of information about Imagine, ask them to get their GSes to help put them up on their wiki. Solves tons of problems in one go.
inb4 “Mine’s not AGE employee”
http://wiki.aeriagames.com/megaten/index.php?title=Modification_Materials
This list doesn’t work for you? Or is it outdated?
Ah… I remember it was put up somewhere around the time when ever devious Finella closed the Data Dump for a big update amidst data stealing/warping drama and US Imagine community shitting bricks and proclaiming the end of the world.
Those were some funny days.
Seeing as those modification data are copied directly from this site (only the table is changed now that i check the link, *pfft* as if that makes a difference) I’m fairly certain it’s accurate. But then again I’ve never done a side by side comparison. Who knows, maybe they fail at copy+paste too.
Tons of holes there since it’s the CPed version of the modification stuff before the additional slot 3/4/5 stuff were added. e.g. Slot 3, fire 4.
They do fail, and how.
Look at the critical tables and some of the advanced mod tables (for the values that got implemented with the new elemental mods). There’s more broken stuff there than in a jar of shattered glass. =p
one of the side-effects of WK is that ‘critical hit rate/up’ i was wondering does this boost in critical hit rate still apply if i was using a gun rather than a melee weapon and are you able to tell me by how much critical each class of wk gives?
Apply to every skill. Actual amount unknown.
I wonder about the Destruction Weapons … the Shop in H3 there are only four of them, the others are items of AP / CP from Fortune Cards?
They’ll be exchangable in the future @ the shop in H3.
I see…thank you for reply.
Another question envolving LB, is about what is the better stats for raise against Shiva/Vishnu.
I have a set of full Kali Tarots, equips for critical and LB Boost, and wearing my Blunt Weapon the total is:
str 142
close 154
luck 112
crit 212(w/o Melee toogles)
lb chance 25%
lb boost 110%
So im thinking my close range too low…but the LB rate is high and LB damage does around 15k/17k if against demon weakness. Will be better change my kali tarots for V Tarots or 200+ critical will be very necessary against Shiva/Vishnu?
hey finelia i was wonder is dis soul stone accautlly -20% damage from megica race? or is it a miss translate?
それが正しい。
i dont read japaneise . english please sh1k1? k thx
He said “that is correct.”
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rofl
Did cave ever change the stats on the original nocturne set to make them tradeable or did they just release the tranquil Bs we have now?
Original Nocturne stuff was made tradable later on.
I’m tired of Aeria server, so I decided to play the Japanese version.
But I can not create a character … the Create button is off regardless of the font I use, including Japanese.
Someone knows how to solve this problem? Or some player of Japanese version can make a character for me, I can give my login and password.
fail
Yeah but nevermind too…I’ve managed to make my character there.
hmmmm finelia i was planning on making a pvp rdy melee… since you have vast knowledge of the game i was wonder what would be thest easyesit route for 30-90 ? and also which affinty do melees use on the JP server? (i know i t seems sorta dumb asking here but my school blocked my from the aeria games site) o.o
>> Dumb
The end.
rofl… i find it ironic this is the questions section and your supposed to answer questions and yet you called me dumb as an answer?
Retard much?
1) You are asking “finelia”.
2) I don’t speak dumb.
I’ll answer only if it’s a legitimate question, which yours isn’t.
well does this apply as a legit questions?
whats affinity is used the most in pvp for melees on the JP server?
Dumb
lol thats not a dumb question >_>
What kind of bullets do mages use in PVE?
mages dont use bullets in pvp.
and lol are you toying with me now?
You asked a dumb question, and so I replied with a dumb question that is of a similar nature to your question.
Finella vast knowledge of stuff is not available right now. Please try again in the near future. (i.e. never)
lol
Quick question because I’m too damn lazy to run through my entire list of crystals to check this:
Is there any tarot whatsoever that boosts Expel damage? I know Phantom boosts Death damage and resistance, and I know Hokuto Seikun boosts critical and Expel resistance, but off the top of my head, I can’t seem to remember ever seeing a tarot that boosted Expel damage. I already ran through the entire Divine family with no luck, and I know the Seraphs’ tarots don’t give an Expel boost. So yeah, any tarot out there I may be missing on that boosts Expel?
No, only Odin SS gives Expel boost for Law players.
TAROTS.
None.
Unless I don’t know how to read anymore, does the White Rabbit effectively gives Alice a +50% XP gain? AKA 30% for being Alice and 20% for being a Fiend, or just the 30% for being Alice?
They stack.
random question does anyone else get the “400 bad request” error when going on aeria games website?
Happens occasionally.
Did you ever find any info on where to get relic pieces? Seems like there’s almost no info on where you can actually get them.
There are less than 20 relic pieces in the entire game. Ask Aeria’s Wiki gang to c/p them from somewhere.
Does kiss throw use longrange or closerange for damage?
I am sorry if this seems like a dumb question. My assumption is longerange, but with their pro-gramming, I wanted to be sure before I rebirthed for longe range.
Nevermind, found the answer, I’d delete these & save you the wasted time but too late.
Finella, I noticed the BGM Modification was down u_u. I’m assuming it had connection with Aeria’s bitch flip. Any chance you remember the hex line in the CSoundData file that delt with volume and how to raise it?
P.S.
Still lost without you
i hope this was nicely asked ^^
i have question fifi, does lng rng/pnt/spr and charge/blunt/slash max mod is 3 in slot 4 and 5? since i know wiki in aeria seems broken and cant really be trusted >_>. and i think i saw blunt 4 in slot4, but im not sure
umm if it`s seems breaking tos, a email is fine too. thank you alot finella, good luck with your rift
The natural possible modifications are as follows:
Damage mods go up to 10 on slots 1 and 3 (close range, long range, spell and support).
All modifications on slot 2 go up to 5. Critical, physical affinity, curative, repair cost, what have you.
Affinity mods (elemental and physical affinities like the ones you mention) go up to 4 on slots 3 and 5.
All modifications on slot 4 go up to 3. Exceptions are Critical (4) and Repair Cost (5).
oh grats you websites back and not giving 404 error anymore when browseing anything other then the main site.
Caterina is now available on NA server. I’ve seen on gkwiki that there are LNC versions similar to veronica, but no details are given about the resulting rings. Does anybody know the stats of the LNC versions?
If memory serves, the Block Critical and Damage Received Reduction increases, partner’s damage at any friendship is raised to 25%, and if Linked, another 12%. Might be wrong, but I seem to recall those are the stats.
Aeria’s patch notes are incorrect as well? Vanilla Caterina gives 20% and 10% if linked right?
Should be correct but I wouldn’t trust their patch notes much anyway, Aeria don’t even have a fucking clue or care whats going on in their own game and actually are seemingly actively trying to sabotage themselves with everything they do.
Lucky for them theres a ridiculous ammount of people who find it fun to crawl up the GM’s asses with the winner getting a faceful of crap.
o: Hai Fifi. Its been a while, and you probably forgot who I am.
Anyway, few months ago, well into last year, I asked you if you knew the formula/how Tri-Fuse works. Can you elaborate for me please? :0
:(
T-T I can´t create a character on the japanese server, can you help me please?
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Dear Finella,
I’ve been trying to look for the Rewards from Diaspora. I looked everywhere on google and the Jp wiki but its very difficult to understand the translation. I’m jut concerned on the skills that human characters can learn. Mind if i take this info from you? =)
Thank you,
Sincerely, JoshDS